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Posted 14 September 2009, 6:21 PM
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Submitted by TheLastBard
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Posted 14 September 2009, 8:49 PM
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Submitted by TOMM GABBARD
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cary, thanks for the invaluable info thus far. i promise to stop lettering with photoshop. lol i have just installed inkscape and am reading the manual. keep those lessons coming sir |
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Posted 14 September 2009, 11:54 PM
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Submitted by Cary
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Yeah there's a couple of good things to note here. I didn't cover Inkscape because I have no experience with that program, but from what I've heard it is a full function option in the event you can't afford the Adobe route. As Erik mentions, you'll need to start from scratch with a template and such, but you should be able to do everything in that program that you can in Illustrator, you'll just have to learn your way around it first. In raster software, there's an open source program called Gimp that's much the same from what I'm told. Also worth noting is, you WILL begin to notice both the mistakes and the triumphs of other letterers once you get deeper into this. That's to be expected. But take things fromothers both good and bad and learn as you not only DO lettering, but read. I love seeing something cool in a book and trying to replicate it. My template is full of that sort of stuff. |
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Posted 15 September 2009, 11:31 AM
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Submitted by TheLastBard
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There's GIMP and GIMPShop, a modified version of GIMP someone made to look and feel more like PhotoShop. I use that one, especially for banners since it has a built in animated gif function working with layers I like a lot... |
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Posted 19 September 2009, 5:51 PM
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Submitted by BradHP
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Glad to see this section as I've recently been looking into learning some lettering skills. As one of a billion writers I feel like I need some other talent I can contribute. I started reading the tutorials at Balloon Tales and thinking about grabbing a book or two. I'll be keeping my eyes on this for some new stuff. |
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Posted 06 October 2009, 12:11 PM
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Submitted by Cary
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Brad you make a good point here that I haven't really addressed up till now, and that is making yourself as useful as possible. I started lettering to save money more than anything because trust me lettering wasn't a headache I really ever wanted to entertain. The very idea of learning a new program that was so damn different from what I'd already struggled to learn with Photoshop did NOT appeal in the least. But as I worked with it, I started having fun, and that was the key for me. once I had the skills I got out and started looking to get the experience, not only doing my stuff, but for others as well. Why? Because I didn't want to get into the mode of "it's good enough". I'm a perfectionist jackass personally, but even still I'll let things slip without someone hanging over my shoulder saying "Hey that looks weird to me, can we change it?" So to keep myself sharp, and to make myself sharper still, I took random jobs from people needing letterers. I still do on occasion, but more often than not it's paying work these days because I have a limited amount of time. Paying gigs tend to force me to structure my time in such a way as to get things done faster and with better quality. As a writer seeking to contribute more to the process, that's a great aspiration. I totally get you there because writing being the first thing done, you're kinda left out in the cold if you don't do anything else, and that's not fun. Doing letters allows me to be part of the process from start to finish, because I'm the final output source as well as the initial springboard. It might be a small thing in the larger picture, but it does definitely add to my enjoyment of a given project. |
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Posted 18 October 2009, 12:09 PM
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Submitted by BradHP
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Okay, I have my copy of "Comic Lettering the Comicraft Way". I have a few good tutorials saved online (including this one). I can make a decent shaped balloon (and connect a decent tail to it) and have some nice free fonts I found. I think I have a good grasp of the basics, enough to get the words on the page. What I need some guidance on is getting the page set up from the beginning. I can't find any real step by step instructions on the best way to start a new doc in AI. Page size, bleed size. And making a template. I've searched online for a template but can't find any for CS4, keep coming across dead links. |
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Posted 19 October 2009, 1:14 AM
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Submitted by Cary
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Brad you've made an excellent start! And, not surprisingly, you're run into pretty much the same wall I did when I first got started. I could go into a really in-depth 'create your own template' thing here, but it's late, I'm tired, and I don't have my laptop in front of me to take me step by step. So what I will do instead is offer my template to you, and to anyone else who wants it. It's pretty simple and straightforward, and in fact is a combination of several other templates I've come across in my travels. At the same time I'll see if I can't track down some of the other templates out there so you can see some of the comparison. To get mine, simply drop me an email and I'll send it over. |